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LAKE JACKSON, Texas USA — QuickBurst is now offering what they claim is "an alternative to ATF regulated e-matches" with their new “Hot Coil Kit.”  According to David Bachelder, the owner of QuickBurst, you can fly dual deployment without a LEUP using his product.

Hot Coil Kits come to you with all the material required to build your own ejection charges. The kit comes with 10 cardboard canisters, 10 bulkheads, 10 feet of bonded pair shooting wire and enough nichrome wire to assemble at least 10 Hot Coils. Each order comes with complete instructions detailing construction.

Bachelder said he has bench tested many of the coils himself and has not had one failure. "They are very robust and practically indestructible," Bachelder stated. "Each and every one of them has functioned as designed and fired the ejection charge on cue."

You should know that the Hot Coils product requires higher current than ordinary e-matches — most altimeters manufactured today will not fire them. "However," Bachelder says, "the PerfectFlite HA45K and it’s robust firing current is perfectly suited for the job." Peter Lawall of PerfectFlite and Bachelder teamed up to make the Hot Coils Kit a reality. Bachelder added, "I thank Peter for his valued input, with out him this would not have been possible."

Hot Coil Kits are not regulated "in any way, shape form or fashion," Bachelder claims, and can be shipped USPS Priority Mail. Assembly will require a few skills — these are easily learned and can be accomplished by most anyone.

A few facts:

QuickBurst's new Hot Coils Kit, said to be "an ATF regulation-free alternative to e-matches."
1. The Hot Coils will not work with most altimeters.
2. Hot Coils work perfectly with altimeters, timers or stagers that can supply 5 amps of firing current for one second.
3. Hot Coils are not regulated, by anyone and can be shipped USPS Priority Mail.
4. The PerfectFlite HA45K is perfect for use with Hot Coils.
5. The cardboard canisters have a max capacity of about 2.5 grams of black powder.
6. You will need to learn to silver solder, though with the soldering products available today this is a breeze.
7. Hot Coils will work with smokeless powders. However using black powder and smokeless powders in rocketry requires an ATF permit. A permit is not required to purchase.
8. Many of the timers available today will also fire the Hot Coils.
9. Hot Coils can be enhanced with various dips. This will allow them to be used in conjunction with timers/stagers for sustainer ignition.
10. The HA45K and a fresh 9 volt alkaline (Duracell) will work fine. A fresh Duracell battery is recommended for each flight. A better battery choice is the 9 volt NiMH battery available from PerfectFlite.
11. The instructions supplied with each order details each and every step to success.
12. Using the PerfectFlite HA45K Bachelder has never had a failure.

Hot Coils Package deal: A PerfectFlite HA45K together with a Hot Coil Kit is only $90.00 plus shipping and handling. This is a limited offer. Please allow three weeks for delivery.

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Website: http://www.quickburst.net

Reader comments:

#1

Regulation breeds innovation.

Innovation breeds regulation.

Regulation breeds innovation.

I have a suggestion. Regulate less.

Breed less hatred for the government.

Just Jerry

Just Jerry on 01-04-2007 08:56 PM

#2 You still need a LEUP

Even though the these coils are not regulated the minute you hook them up to a black powder charge and stick em in a rocket you are required to have a LEUP.

Even though anyone 21 or older can walk into a gun store and buy black powder without a LEUP, the Almighties that be at the BATF have stated that black powder use in rocketry does require a LEUP . What next? an explosives permit for Estes motors? Remember they are black powder based, not composite.

So we're still stuck.

I commend Quickburts and PerfectFlite for joining forces and trying to come up with an alternative but we're still not there yet.

Clark on 01-08-2007 01:14 AM

#3

There seems to be a pattern with QuickBurst's marketing, and it appears to be deceptive. In the opening paragraph, it states:

"According to David Bachelder, the owner of QuickBurst, you can fly dual deployment without a LEUP using his product."

Under the few facts, it states at number 7:

"Hot Coils will work with smokeless powders. However using black powder and smokeless powders in rocketry requires an ATF permit. A permit is not required to purchase."

That's deceptive. If an ATF permit is required in rocketry for black and smokeless powders, then you can not "fly dual deployment without a LEUP using this product." Perhaps the article needs to be renamed something else...

crontab on 01-08-2007 12:55 PM

#4

I don't understand your view. I am not deceptive. I tell you up front that the Hot Coil Kit is un-regulated. Then I tell you that black powder is. These are facts, how are they deceptive?

If you tink I'm deceptive, talk to the ATF. They wrote the book on deceptive.

QuickBurst on 01-09-2007 07:16 AM

#5

Quote:

I don't understand your view. I am not deceptive. I tell you up front that the Hot Coil Kit is un-regulated. Then I tell you that black powder is. These are facts, how are they deceptive?

If you tink I'm deceptive, talk to the ATF. They wrote the book on deceptive.

Maybe this will help you:

From your post on various email mailing lists:

Quote:

With the help of Peter Lawall from PerfectFlite I am pleased to announce there is now a way to avoid the ATF's regulation on e-matches and still fly dual deployment.

From your post on TRF:

Quote:

Yes, you can fly dual deploy without a LEUP.

Then according to you yourself, you CAN NOT fly dual deployment without a LEUP using your new product. Your own advertisements are deceptive in that respect. You may as well have been saying:

Quote:

COST Free Ejection Canisters

With the help of Peter Lawall from PerfectFlite I am pleased to announce a COST free alternative to e-matches. See the Hot Coils on the QuickBurst website. A FREE alternative to e-matches.

Note:
Hot Coils are FREE, but there is a $1.50 handling fee for each one plus $6.00 shipping: Minimum order: groupings of 10.

See:
http://www.quickburst.net for the fine print.

It's deceptive to say you can fly dual deployment without a LEUP and then tell us later in the small print that oh, yeah, well, you really do need a LEUP to fly dual deployment using my product, I was just kidding when I said you didn't. Your product is being touted as a regulation-free product, giving the impression that its USE is regulation free. You should state that you offer ejection charge canisters, and that the purchase of them is regulation free, not that you can "fly dual deploy without a LEUP."

crontab on 01-09-2007 12:39 PM

#6 Good to be wrong

On the bright side it is wrong to state smokeless requires and LEUP and a review of the explosives regulations shows an exemption there as well for DD.

Rocket Flier on 01-09-2007 06:05 PM

#7

Quote:

On the bright side it is wrong to state smokeless requires and LEUP and a review of the explosives regulations shows an exemption there as well for DD.

I have seen nothing in the exemptions part of the explosives regulations that mentions dual deployment.

crontab on 01-09-2007 10:40 PM

#8

Quote:

I have seen nothing in the exemptions part of the explosives regulations that mentions dual deployment.

Subpart H (Exemptions) (8).

http://a257.g.akamaitech.n...ov/2006/pdf/E6-13201.pdf
Federal Register / Vol. 71, No. 155 / Friday, August 11, 2006 / Proposed Rules

Provides further details. Note H8 doesn't call out inflatable automobile occupant restraint systems or their more common term, airbags, either.

Rocket Flier on 01-10-2007 12:51 AM

#9

If you note subpart H (exemptions) (8), you will also note there is no indication of inflatable automobile occupant restraint systems (aka airbags). The August 11 Proposed rules may be of further assistance.

http://www.atf.gov/explarson/hobbyrocket.htm

Rocket Flier on 01-10-2007 01:02 AM

#10

That document covers the proposed changes to the PAD exemption. That's not the explosive laws. I don't see anything referring to dual deployment as it refers to hobby rocketry.

crontab on 01-10-2007 02:05 PM

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