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KLOUDBUSTERS announce 50,000 foot waiver for LDRS 27
2007 Archived News by LDRS 27 Planning Committee
Wednesday, December 19, 2007
ARGONIA, Kansas USA — KLOUDBusters, the host organization for LDRS 27, is pleased to announce that we have obtained the official Certification of Waiver from the FAA for the period August 28, 2008 through September 2, 2008 for our launch site near Argonia, KS.
The waiver permits flight operations to an altitude of 50,000’ AGL for the stated period for all hours of operation.
Fliers are reminded that all flights planned in excess of 25,000’ AGL must obtain prior approval from the Tripoli Board of Directors for their project. The application for 25K+ flights may be found at the following URL:
#7Re: KLOUDBUSTERS announce 50,000 foot waiver for LDRS 27
Does each and every flyer of a motor over 62.5g need to have a LEUP? I only ask because that is how it is enforced in some parts of the country. If you show up at LDRS and it is NOT enforced that way, either everyone is committing a felony, or the ATF is not enforcing the law, or the law does not require it, and those being subjected to that practice locally are being "over-enforced" and their rights violated, a cause of action.
Also a couple of years ago at the PGI (fireworks) convention ATF did an extraordinary thing. They showed up (for the first time), set up check points, a sign-in area, and told all persons who transported home made stuff they had to check it directly into a magazine provided, it could be discharged at the show, but everybody who did do that (TRA-EX equivalent), had to sign a notice they were in violation and further similar acts would be enforced most vigerously. Refusing to sign the notice resulted in immediate arrest. Trying to avoid the checkpoint resulted in the offer of sign or arrest. Needless to say this was a major historical destruction of this country's pyrotechnic artisans. Rocketeers are clearly next.
So much for "getting out the mixers" for a rocket event hosted by an allegedly HPR club, focused on pre-manufactured consumer products compliant with NFPA-1127, of which EX clearly is not.
#8Re: KLOUDBUSTERS announce 50,000 foot waiver for LDRS 27
Jerry,
I have contact info for Bob Brown. Maybe you can ask him directly. I assume a buddy system will be in effect, but calling attention to inconsistencies is likely gonna do no one any favors. If we get presented with a worst case scenario, where any and all need Leups, attendance will drop like a stone. If someone is looking for relief from an overzealous enforcement, than let them bring it up after the launch. My 2 cents worth: If this is a happily snoozing dog, why kick it?
#9Re: KLOUDBUSTERS announce 50,000 foot waiver for LDRS 27
Looking back 30 years, the average temperature in August in that part of Kansas (Wellington) is mid 70's, with the average high temp about 86 and the average low temp about 63. Average precip. is 3.5 inches each for the months of August and September. May and June get more precipitation.
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or hotel.
William
Also a couple of years ago at the PGI (fireworks) convention ATF did an extraordinary thing. They showed up (for the first time), set up check points, a sign-in area, and told all persons who transported home made stuff they had to check it directly into a magazine provided, it could be discharged at the show, but everybody who did do that (TRA-EX equivalent), had to sign a notice they were in violation and further similar acts would be enforced most vigerously. Refusing to sign the notice resulted in immediate arrest. Trying to avoid the checkpoint resulted in the offer of sign or arrest. Needless to say this was a major historical destruction of this country's pyrotechnic artisans. Rocketeers are clearly next.
So much for "getting out the mixers" for a rocket event hosted by an allegedly HPR club, focused on pre-manufactured consumer products compliant with NFPA-1127, of which EX clearly is not.
Just Jerry
I have contact info for Bob Brown. Maybe you can ask him directly. I assume a buddy system will be in effect, but calling attention to inconsistencies is likely gonna do no one any favors. If we get presented with a worst case scenario, where any and all need Leups, attendance will drop like a stone. If someone is looking for relief from an overzealous enforcement, than let them bring it up after the launch. My 2 cents worth: If this is a happily snoozing dog, why kick it?
j