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Friday, May 02, 2008

FREDRICKSBURG, Texas USA — Brett Williams is leading a charge to re-establish the United States as a leader in science, math and engineering, by lighting a spark in America's youth through a rocketry-based education program called SystemGo Aeroscience and Ignite Education.

Williams started in 1996, reaching out to students of Fredricksburg High School with the Redbird Rocket Program.  Their first year, they sent a rocket up one mile, carrying a one pound payload.  Since then, they've broken the sound barrier and aimed for 100,000 feet in the air. Their next project is a 500 pound behemoth that will soar to the edge of space, carrying a payload onboard from graduate students of Stanford University.

The program was turned into a model for other high schools in the state of Texas, and dozens now participate in their annual launch event.  Fredricksburg's program is so sophisticated that the U.S. Air Force is involved, launching their biggest rocket from the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. 

"This past week we supported the testing of 18 free-flight vehicles for a dozen schools across Texas," Williams said in an online communication.  "All experienced stable flight and all were on target to accomplish their project design goals."  Williams was contacting supporters to make them aware of a segment on the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams called "Making a Difference" that was shown Friday evening, May 2nd.

All of the propulsion systems used in the testings were hybrids, and has been one of the pet projects of Anthony Cesaroni of Cesaroni Technology Incorporated, a major supplier of hobby rocketry propulsion systems.  "It’s one of the academic projects we helped support with our HyperTek product," Cesaroni said. "The students and faculties are really pumped."

These leaders of tomorrow's America realize that the answer is today's youth, and are leveraging that raw resource to help position the United States to once again take charge of its destiny and regain their lead in the science and engineering world.

Website: http://www.igniteeducation.org/


Post 05-02-2008 08:45 PM  #1
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Post 05-02-2008 10:00 PM  #2
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WAY TO GO BRETT WILLIAMS! This is purely AWESOME. I really like the fact that all the birds I saw were using hybrid motors - an added degree of complexity - more things to learn about. It's nice to see some good press for rockets for once.

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Post 05-02-2008 10:16 PM  #3
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I have to imagine the decision to use hybrids may have been tempered with the commonly associated regulatory nightmare currently experienced with solid propellant motors. Our own government is actively interferring with the nation's future as it relates to science and math, but they do not care when regulation simply for the sake of regulation is so essential to post 9/11 politicians. Vote these visionless impediments out of office.
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Post 05-02-2008 10:21 PM  #4
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I have to imagine the decision to use hybrids may have been tempered with the commonly associated regulatory nightmare currently experienced with solid propellant motors. Our own government is actively interferring with the nation's future as it relates to science and math, but they do not care when regulation simply for the sake of regulation is so essential to post 9/11 politicians. Vote these visionless impediments out of office.



I agree of course but Williams made a closing comment not normal for him in STRONG support of the activity, and let's not forget our own Anthony Cesaroni helped this to happen.

Never forget.

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Post 05-03-2008 08:57 PM  #5
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It's a relief to know there's still teachers out there that are willing to challenge their students to stretch the limits, and offer the guidance for them to achieve their goals.

Outstanding effort Mr. Williams!
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I have to imagine the decision to use hybrids may have been tempered with the commonly associated regulatory nightmare currently experienced with solid propellant motors.



I wouldn't dare speak for Brett, but when he visited with us last year (my high school is considering adopting the Ignite program - that's the trade name given the curriculum that Brett is doing and sharing with other schools) he made mention of the powers-that-be being very comfortable with the materials for a hybrid being stored in schools. I just gotta believe that played a part in the decision to go hybrid for the high-power rockets (they do use BP and APCP for the low and medium powered rockets, though).

The curriculum isn't only rockets, but also robotics and a few other technology thingies put into play. It's the second-year students that were launching the high-powered rockets in the TV report, by the way.
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Post 05-05-2008 11:48 AM  #7
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I like your choice of words... "impediments". The only way these impediments will ever be removed is for the major news outlets to do more stories about such uplifting activities instead of the constant barrage of doom and gloom about our youth. As long as us old farts only talk about our hobbies amonst ourselves, nothing will ever change.

Thank you NBC news and Bryon Williams for airing this story without even one mention of Britney Spears!
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Post 05-05-2008 12:11 PM  #8
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I'm sorry. That was BRIAN, noy Bryon Williams, you old fart.
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Post 05-05-2008 12:29 PM  #9
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If you want, you can "edit" your original post in the Forums. Click http://www.rocketryplanet.....php?p=88082&postcount=8 and then "Edit".
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If you want, you can "edit" your original post in the Forums. Click http://www.rocketryplanet.....php?p=88082&postcount=8 and then "Edit".



Thanks. I'm still trying to learn the proper way to install a Copperhead igniter!

But back to the subject at hand: I just sent a comment to Brian and NBC, thanking them for this story. I firmly beleive that the only way we in the hobby rocket community will ever prevail is if we can receive favourable press from the major, mainstream TELEVISION news media. The squeaky wheel always gets the grease and if hundreds or hopefully even thousands of us "harmless nerds and fanatics" can somehow beat naysayers to the microphone, we might just stand a chance.

I am POSITIVE that newspeople love positive feedback to their stories and that the time to respond is when their story is fresh in their minds. LET'S ROLL!
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Thanks. I'm still trying to learn the proper way to install a Copperhead igniter!

But back to the subject at hand: I just sent a comment to Brian and NBC, thanking them for this story. I firmly beleive that the only way we in the hobby rocket community will ever prevail is if we can receive favourable press from the major, mainstream TELEVISION news media. The squeaky wheel always gets the grease and if hundreds or hopefully even thousands of us "harmless nerds and fanatics" can somehow beat naysayers to the microphone, we might just stand a chance.

I am POSITIVE that newspeople love positive feedback to their stories and that the time to respond is when their story is fresh in their minds. LET'S ROLL!



Can you post a link to submit positive comments to NBC about this story.
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Post 05-05-2008 03:54 PM  #12
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Yes. It's http://dailynightly.msnbc....e/2008/05/02/975109.aspx
Scroll down to "post a comment". I hope they read these things.
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Post 05-05-2008 05:01 PM  #13
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The correspondent was Tom Costello, NBC.

The anchor was Brian Williams, NBC.
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Post 05-05-2008 06:22 PM  #14
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The correspondent was Tom Costello, NBC.

The anchor was Brian Williams, NBC.



Yes, thanks! I should have noted that. It is my hope that everyone on this forum will contact the people at NBC with a great big "ATTABOY"! Clinton, McCain and Obama would give their first layer of skin for a story like this. Let's not waste this oppuortunity with complacency!
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Ask someone a question. If the answer is "I don't know", it's an indicator of ignorance. If the answer is "I don't care", that's the product of apathy. Are we apathetic or just lazy?
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Post 05-06-2008 04:06 PM  #16
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Despite their claims to moderate that content I noticed that John Gamettes had commented on their lack of moderation of another post and even quoted their own text that stated that all text must relate to the blog.

So I am doubtful that anyone at NBC is actually reading this.
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Despite their claims to moderate that content I noticed that John Gamettes had commented on their lack of moderation of another post and even quoted their own text that stated that all text must relate to the blog.

So I am doubtful that anyone at NBC is actually reading this.



The point is that if enough of us take the time to contact NBC about their positive story on rocketry, they will take notice. If we do nothing, nothing will result and the lawyers take the prize!
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The point is that if enough of us take the time to contact NBC about their positive story on rocketry, they will take notice. If we do nothing, nothing will result and the lawyers take the prize!



And my point is that contacting them this way does not appear to work. If they don't take the time to remove posts like the two pointed out - they are not likely to notice our positive comments either. Is there another way to let them know? Perhaps letters to their local affiliates and corporate HQ?
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And my point is that contacting them this way does not appear to work. If they don't take the time to remove posts like the two pointed out - they are not likely to notice our positive comments either. Is there another way to let them know? Perhaps letters to their local affiliates and corporate HQ?



Thanks. I'll remember this next time I see Senator Schumer on NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN ad nauseum, pontificating, unchallenged, about how these things can be used to shoot down aircraft. You're right. Let's just keep the facts between us girls.
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Thanks. I'll remember this next time I see Senator Schumer on NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN ad nauseum, pontificating, unchallenged, about how these things can be used to shoot down aircraft. You're right. Let's just keep the facts between us girls.



???? Now I feel like you are not reading what I said. Maybe it's me. First NBC now you...

I'm on your side - but I think we need to tell NBC how much we liked the story in a way that actually gets their attention. If they don't care enough to purge those messages of obvious garbage - they aren't reading them and it doesn't help in my opinion. You could post a message saying that Bigfoot was found in a rocket on the moon and they would not bat an eye.

I'd rather be a team on this but if you want to tilt at windmills...
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???? Now I feel like you are not reading what I said. Maybe it's me. First NBC now you...

I'm on your side - but I think we need to tell NBC how much we liked the story in a way that actually gets their attention. If they don't care enough to purge those messages of obvious garbage - they aren't reading them and it doesn't help in my opinion. You could post a message saying that Bigfoot was found in a rocket on the moon and they would not bat an eye.

I'd rather be a team on this but if you want to tilt at windmills...



Truce: I really don't care if anyone actually reads anything posted on NBC's comments forums. They won't publish everything they get anyway and they obviously don't follow their own forum rules. But if "the media", in this case NBC, recieve hundreds of positive feedback from us consumers, they'll take notice of the numbers because numbers equals viewers and viewers equal advertisers. If there is interest in their stories they will quite likely do followups. Advertisers pay millions for one minute of air time and it costs us nothing to encourage them to do more stories like this. If hobby rocketry is to survive, it must reach out to those who get all of their news and information from the tube. Talking to each other is fine, but does nothing to educate the uninformed public who are constantly mislead by the propaganda of our fear mongering politicians and bureaucrats. It is ignorance that perpetuates the situation we're in.

One can also email Brett Williams a thank you note at the Fredricksburg ISD and send donations to www.igniteeducation.org
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Truce



Agreed - sorry this was getting distracting and I should have taken this offline.

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It is ignorance that perpetuates the situation we're in.



And a healthy dose of intentional misdirection and manipulation by those who want this to remain as it is.
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