DENVER, Colorado USA - The FAA is restricting air space in the Denver area during the Democratic National Convention.

The FAA restriction applies to model airplanes as well as ultralights, gliders, parachute operations, balloon operations, crop dusting, banner towing and model rocketry from Aug. 25 until Aug. 29.

The Academy of Model Aeonautics says it has blocked all remote control airplanes from flying in Colorado on runways like the Jeffco Aerodrome in Chatfield State Park during the DNC.

A Colorado State Parks spokesperson told 9NEWS they will comply with the FAA ban at their runways at Chatfield and Cherry Creek State Parks during the DNC.

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08-11-2008 10:57 PM  #1
plano_doug NAR L2   Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 85	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: The FAA restriction applies to model airplanes as well as ultralights, gliders, parachute operations, balloon operations, crop dusting, banner towing and model rocketry from Aug. 25 until Aug. 29. I wonder if this truly means model rockets, or if they in fact meant waivered (HPR) activity. That said, even if they do mean MR, I don't see how they can enforce it. I don't see them being able to prevent somebody from flying Alphas on A8-3's at the neighborhood park. Or electric park flyers, either. I imagine some of the details got lost between the FAA and Denver's 9News. Doug .

08-11-2008 11:10 PM  #2
UhClem Certified Level Three   Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 192	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: I wonder if this truly means model rockets, or if they in fact meant waivered (HPR) activity. That said, even if they do mean MR, I don't see how they can enforce it. I don't see them being able to prevent somebody from flying Alphas on A8-3's at the neighborhood park. Or electric park flyers, either. I imagine some of the details got lost between the FAA and Denver's 9News. Doug . http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#co I really like: "G. Be advised that noncompliance with this TFR may result in the use of force."

08-12-2008 11:43 AM  #3
tmacklin Certifiable   Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 122	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Whew! Thank goodness they didn't ban hookers at their convention.

08-12-2008 11:44 AM  #4
Aphyle Hot HCl and rubber @ AM   Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 116	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: I really like: "G. Be advised that noncompliance with this TFR may result in the use of force." Airstrikes? Airborne SWAT? But seriously, those dates look like weekdays, and most of my flying is on the weekends.

08-12-2008 12:02 PM  #5
H_rocket Village Idiot   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 598	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Newswire - 12 year old threat to national securiy taken out in retaliation for unauthorized MMX flight. Military reports collateral damage done by MLRS / cluster bomb strike within acceptable limits.

08-12-2008 04:11 PM  #6
rstaff3 Oddroc-eteer   Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 243	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC May be an huge exaggeration....but may be closer to possibility than most think.

08-12-2008 04:25 PM  #7
Squirrel Works Nutty   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 145	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC We had one of these restrictions in Dallas a few months ago. We had to reschedule an outreach launch because of it. I inquired with the FAA at the time and yes, model rockets were included.

08-12-2008 04:45 PM  #8
UncleVanya If pigs had fins...   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 3640	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Are fireworks allowed? Someone could always use a knob motor and a really big apogee charge...

08-12-2008 07:21 PM  #9
H_rocket Village Idiot   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 598	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC 3" Min Dia Carbon Fiber with a big honking Skid...

08-15-2008 04:26 PM  #10
Bayourat Level 3   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 28	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC I think any thing under a pound with less then 62.5 grams of propellant is exempt from FAA regulation unless it's at an organized launch. So a couple of kids at the local park flying an Alpha on A8-3's will not be shot on site. You may be told to cease and desist your activities by the local police. But that would be outside of FAA control.

08-15-2008 05:03 PM  #11
UncleVanya If pigs had fins...   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 3640	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: I think any thing under a pound with less then 62.5 grams of propellant is exempt from FAA regulation unless it's at an organized launch. So a couple of kids at the local park flying an Alpha on A8-3's will not be shot on site. You may be told to cease and desist your activities by the local police. But that would be outside of FAA control. I'm not sure. The fact is that model rocketry is under FAA control but simply has a standing exemption. The FAR 101 rules that say it's ok are suspended by this order as far as I read it. I would consult a lawyer before I would fly anything in the prohibited timeframe in that area. Lucky for me I live in NC and this isn't in effect here.

08-15-2008 05:21 PM  #12
Steve_Shannon Growing more clueless...   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2212	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: I think any thing under a pound with less then 62.5 grams of propellant is exempt from FAA regulation unless it's at an organized launch. So a couple of kids at the local park flying an Alpha on A8-3's will not be shot on site. You may be told to cease and desist your activities by the local police. But that would be outside of FAA control. I'm not sure that would be outside of FAA control. Model airplanes of that size are exempt from the rules contained in certain sections of FAR 101 only, not other rules and certainly not "emergency orders" that may be issued by FAA. I agree that no kid with an Alpha would not be shot on site, and realistically this is one of those impractical directives that government lives on, but there probably are legal ramifications to willingly violating this order.

08-15-2008 10:15 PM  #13
Just Jerry Freeform rockets advocate   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1298	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: "G. Be advised that noncompliance with this TFR may result in the use of force." I have a comment. Let's test that theory.

08-15-2008 10:21 PM  #14
H_rocket Village Idiot   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 598	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: I have a comment. Let's test that theory. You go first. I'll loan you the rocket and motor.

08-15-2008 10:27 PM  #15
Just Jerry Freeform rockets advocate   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1298	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: You go first. I'll loan you the rocket and motor. I agree. The constitution, bill of rights, law, and the regulations tell me so. I stand pat. Jerry

08-15-2008 10:30 PM  #16
Just Jerry Freeform rockets advocate   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1298	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC This seems like a simplified way to "get rid of Jerry". I endorse it.

08-15-2008 11:16 PM  #17
lawndart Certified Level Three   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 169	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: This seems like a simplified way to "get rid of Jerry". I endorse it. But I like Jerry.

08-15-2008 11:36 PM  #18
Just Jerry Freeform rockets advocate   Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1298	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: But I like Jerry. You like materials testing molds too. There is no accounting for taste. Just Jerry I NEVER hold my farts.

08-16-2008 12:09 AM  #19
lawndart Certified Level Three   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 169	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC The only thing I don't like the taste of so far is asparigus

08-16-2008 12:11 AM  #20
lawndart Certified Level Three   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 169	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: I NEVER hold my farts. Good because they could cause colon cancer too.

08-19-2008 10:44 AM  #21
Astrosaint Astrosaint   Joined: May 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Since Florida Delegates have been stripped of voting rights for the Convention in Denver, I will be flying a model rocket or 2 on a Florida field for each day of the convention as a protest. I might as well live free before I die !

08-19-2008 01:30 PM  #22
Loopy NAR Level 1   Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 147	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: Good because they could cause colon cancer too. Only in California, though. I've noticed alot of items now say they cause cancer in California...

08-24-2008 03:54 PM  #23
Astrosaint Astrosaint   Joined: May 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Since the Democratic Party restored voting rights to the Florida delegation, MY little rocket protest scheduled to start TODAY has been cancelled. I did fly 3 rockets to test motor sizes to be used and for Florida field selection on August 24th but I then read the announcement of the Florida Delegation seating in Denver. I guess it does not pay to cross a Florida voter--especially one that is upset with the nomination process for president.

08-24-2008 06:44 PM  #24
UncleVanya If pigs had fins...   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 3640	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: Since the Democratic Party restored voting rights to the Florida delegation, MY little rocket protest scheduled to start TODAY has been cancelled. I did fly 3 rockets to test motor sizes to be used and for Florida field selection on August 24th but I then read the announcement of the Florida Delegation seating in Denver. I guess it does not pay to cross a Florida voter--especially one that is upset with the nomination process for president. I don't want to start anything... but how is that fair? Florida voters who stayed home because they assumed that the primary didn't count are now unrepresented.

08-25-2008 10:16 AM  #25
Loopy NAR Level 1   Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 147	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: I don't want to start anything... but how is that fair? Florida voters who stayed home because they assumed that the primary didn't count are now unrepresented. Not to mention that Florida and Michigan knowingly and willingly broke the rules when they held their primaries. So, basically now the party is saying, "Hey - I know you did something we told you not to, but it's okay!" I'm a parent of three children, and I know that if I tried to parent my house that way, things would get very ugly very quickly...

08-25-2008 10:31 AM  #26
UncleVanya If pigs had fins...   Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 3640	Re: Article: FAA bans model rocket flights during DNC Quote: Not to mention that Florida and Michigan knowingly and willingly broke the rules when they held their primaries. So, basically now the party is saying, "Hey - I know you did something we told you not to, but it's okay!" I'm a parent of three children, and I know that if I tried to parent my house that way, things would get very ugly very quickly... Time to put the breaks on. I wandered into the ditch. Let's stop this topic... if you want to PM me to discuss it I'm happy to do so. It's just no longer about rockets. The original poster was cleverly on topic and I should not have posted without staying on theme.