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NAR Rules Revision Chair identifies error in RCP ballot Print E-mail PDF
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Friday, June 05, 2009

ImageWORLD WIDE WEB — Jim Filler, NAR Rules Revision Chair, sent out an alert today on the NAR ContestROC email distribution list alerting members to an error in the RCP ballots that have been mailed to all NAR members for return no later than June 15th.  The error is in RCP# 2008-801, Total Impulse For Contest Events.

The corrected listing is below:

RCP # 2008-801 TOTAL IMPULSE FOR CONTEST EVENTS
Submitted By: David Fitch NAR # 26128

BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE:
It is proposed that in Craftsmanship events, or any event in which an impulse limit is not stated, (Scale, Sport Scale, PMC, Spot Landing, etc. ) that competitors be permitted to fly motors or combinations of motors, up to the limits stated in Section 7 of the Model Rocket Safety Code. Namely these limits are: 1500 gram/53 oz. maximum liftoff weight 125 gram total propellant weight (62.5 gram maximum per motor) and 320 Newton second maximum total impulse.

STATE LOGIC AND INTENT OF CHANGE:
Increasing these limits to encompass the limits established in the Model Rocket Safety Code will permit competitors in Craftsmanship or other events where no impulse limit is stated, to fly larger and or more detailed models not possible with the current limits, which are below the Model Rocket Safety Code.

EFFECT, IF ANY, ON CURRENT COMPETITION AND NAR RECORDS
No effect on current records. By increasing the scope of the potential models, it will have a positive effect for Craftsmanship events.

EXACT WORDING FOR RULE REVISION AS IT SHOULD APPEAR:
Sec # 9.1 Total Impulse Limit- No entry in sanctioned competition, in any event where no maximum total impulse level is stated, shall be powered by a single motor containing more than 62.5 grams of propellant, or combination of motors exceeding 125 grams of propellant in total. The maximum Total Impulse Level, in accordance with the Model Rocket Safety Code, shall not exceed 320 Newton-Seconds. The use of high-power motors in NAR Competition is expressly forbidden.

The NAR is going to continue the vote as is. For those who have not submitted your ballots, submit them with your vote based on the corrected wording above.  If the proposal passes, then the issue is moot.  If it passes and members who have already voted feel the incorrect wording caused them to vote incorrectly, then they may choose to exercise their ability to submit an RCP to retract it.

If the proposal does not pass, the author may resubmit it now before the June 30th deadline for the upcoming cycle to be voted on again.


Reader comments:
#1 Re: Article: NAR Rules Revision Chair identifies error in RCP ballot
The NAR should actively DECODIFY the 62.5g rule everywhere, in contest rules, in association policies, in NFPA codes. It should shift to a UNIFIED 125g rule for model rockets. That was my original intent of changing the FAA rule from 113g/453g to 125g/1500g. It makes no sense to change from 113g to 125g at all if you also keep the 62.5g per motor limit unless as NAR seems to be, they confused the intent with 2x62.5g motors.

Wack.

FAR 101, a federal regulation, allows single motor 125g propellant rockets to fly entirely exempt. NAR certainly should do the same.

Just Jerry

Original proposer of 125g FAA rule.
Just Jerry on 06-05-2009 03:51 PM
#2 Re: Article: NAR Rules Revision Chair identifies error in RCP ballot
What about CPSC?
ddmobley on 06-05-2009 04:06 PM
#3 Re: Article: NAR Rules Revision Chair identifies error in RCP ballot
Quote:
What about CPSC?


They got it from CPSC/NAR. Once NAR changes, CPSC will follow FAA who is not only happy but relaxing. None of that will happen until NAR leads. ALL internal NAR leaning has to be to unified 125/1500g. ALL internal leaning has to be toward lone rangers being acceptable as it is in the Estes/LPR world. That includes having L0 be 125g/1500g (no caveats), and age limits on CPSC concerns. That includes consumer certification being lifetime and not tethered to a club so as people pass through they effectively become emeritus. Why? Emeritus members tend to support their alma mater. NAR needs the revenue, members and the growth.

We have a new NAR President. The very guy who AUTHORED the blue ribbon commission report leading to HPR and FAA relaxation. He used my then U.S. Rockets brand rockets as a model.

The time is now.

Jerry

NAR member #24333, a believer
Just Jerry on 06-05-2009 05:12 PM
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